Wednesday, July 22, 2009

I’ve been contemplating something and need some advice!

I’ve been debating if I should try and drink a margarita or sip some wine. I know it sounds crazy, I’ve never been a drinker so don’t get the wrong idea. I’ve been 13 years without a sip of alcohol sometimes I just wish I could have a nice glass of white or red wine with my wife at a nice candle lit dinner. I wanted to know how many people with Systemic Mastocytosis are still able to consume alcohol. If I try I will have my shots handy and only take a small sip. You are probably thinking is this guy crazy?

Sometimes I get so pissed at all the things I’m not able to do anymore.

14 comments:

Gypsy Princessa said...

Kevin, I totally understand your frustration and need to test the parameters of 'ok' and 'not ok'-ness.

What I've found about alcohol is that IF my body is feeling strong and good then I can usually tolerate a small drink of wine or a small vodka or something. If there's the slightest bit of 'off'ness going on my body that day, then I can't handle it.

I thought yesterday was an ok day. My hubby and I had a vodka cooler and a snuggle on the couch last night. I'm still paying for it this morning. Migraine like pain, gut pain, bone pain, vomiting...almost like a hangover but worse. And, I didn't drink the whole thing (still managed to get tipsy though...such a lightweight, I am. ha ha) Didn't need epi though. So, I consider that a small success. On a different day, it'd be fine. I misjudged. And am paying for it still.

So, you know your body better than anyone...

Normal has changed though. Thinking of you. ((hugs))
Fiona

Foxxy One said...

I have indolent sm and up and am not a shocker. I have no problem with most alcohols (react to Port). I'd think if you are going to try anything, I'd stay away from red wine (tannins can be a big trigger for some). If potato is a regular stable in your diet, maybe something made with vodka would be ok to try.

You're not really missing anything. Lots of empty calories.

Kevin said...

It's not that I need alcohol, like I said it's been 13 years. I wonder how bad tequila would mess with us I would love to drink a margarita with my wife.

I did not know that about red wine Foxxy thanks for the info.

Gypsy, I was thinking the same thing. I figured if I made sure I was strong and not having any problems I may be able to tolerate one drink. I'm still not sure I'm going to even try. The risk of an attack is something I really do not wish to go through anytime soon.

We are going out to dinner tonight with some friends of ours I’ll let you know if I decide to try a drink and what happens. If you don't hear from me for a day or so then you know why :).

Capitan Dorko said...

SM/UP and occasionally shock. I've always read that alcohol can be a trigger, but I have not had that experience. I drink in moderation frequently, and alcohol at the 2-3 drink level does not appear to be a problem (beer, wine, or liquor). However, if I drink a litte more than moderately, the following day is a high risk day where I can seemingly be sent spiraling with the slightest provocation. So, no advice. As we all know, this condition is very "personal", but alcohol in moderation isn't a guaranteed trigger in my experience. And one drink is certainly not a problem for me.

Kevin said...

Thanks for the reply Capitan, that's kind of what I'm thinking. I may give it a try tonight, if I do I'll be sure and post how it turns out.

Anonymous said...

Wow you guys have opened my eyes big time... I am recently diagnosed w/ SM and also have a vast array of other health issues from Brain Tumors, epilepsy, lupus, and fibromyalgia..... So like most of you I occasionly think what the hell why not have a drink? I have been having/ attending several summer picnics and drinking some Mike' Hard Lemonades'/ Smirnoff Ice's etc. no real hard liquor / beer. I have for the past 3 occasions had all the symptoms you all have been describing... the pounding headache, intense stomach pain, the worse than "hangover" feeling. I have known I couldn't possibly have a hangover , because I only drink 2 at most of these beverages... Thanks for the input...Guess I'm sippin Diet Coke/ Ice tea........

FueltheMind said...

HI to all,
Well i want to share some important views with you peoples...

According to me your doctor can determine if you have cutaneous (skin) Mastocytosis after inspecting the skin, the may see the appearance of too many mast cells and do a biopsy to confirm any suspicions. Systemic Mastocystosis can be determined a few ways, through bone scanning, bone marrow testing, blood-work and also through urine. The high amount of the fore mentioned chemicals in the blood or urine is a way doctors can determine if you have the systemic type of this disease.

Jeanne said...

Hi Kevin, I'm just wondering if this blog is still current, if you are still on, etc. I just came across it while surfing. I also have masto and also did the trial with Dr. V. Thanks.. Jeanne

Kevin said...

Hi Jeanne,

I've been so busy with life and what not I've sorta neglected my blog here... I'm on Facebook. If you have a Facebook account you can find me here: http://www.facebook.com/klshoemake

Please invite me as a friend I have several friends with Masto. I look forward to hearing from you.

Kevin

DebMcC said...

Hi Kevin. I stumbled upon your post and totally understand what you are saying. I really miss a lot of the things I used to do, too. I'm also a shocker, so I understand living with the terror of knowing you could be dead within five minutes. And the thing is, it's not the death that's so scary, it's that few minutes of living with everything in your body going haywire. That is so not fun. Anyway, the sulfites in wine will cause me to be unconscious within minutes. They are a serious histamine liberator. I am a writer and use to enjoy a glass of wine to help me get over writers' block, but now that's impossible. I have been thinking of trying something else, so I have obtained a bottle of vodka and gin, but have been so scared to try either. They just sit here, untested. I know you wrote this blog post years ago, so I am wondering if you had any success with your experiment.

Anonymous said...

I have drink on a regular basis. Sometimes the hangover from getting a little buzzed is pretty intense. At times even a small amount brings on a major sickening headache. Most of the time I have no problem.

Anna said...

Hi Kevin, i have sent you a facebook request as i see you don't use your blog so often.
I would love to ask some questions if you don't mind.

thanks

Anna

Lenny Maria Uyanto said...

Hi Kevin, I happen to stumble across your blog. Can I ask for your opinion? Months ago I drank one and a half bottle of Smirnoff. After half bottle, I started to have flushed face, increased temperature, and a little shortness of breath. But I continued anyway. The next day, I have this awful itch allover me and rashed skin. I thought it will all go away, but I waited 3 weeks, it won't go. So I took an antihistamine tablet then, bam, it's gone the next day. Do you think it's also a masto?

NB: before this, 2 years ago I drank beer for the first time and get the same result, but later on I drank Smirnoff because I thought it's lighter.

Thanks for sharing in your blog!

Lenny Maria Uyanto said...

Hi Kevin, I happen to stumble across your blog. Can I ask for your opinion? Months ago I drank one and a half bottle of Smirnoff. After half bottle, I started to have flushed face, increased temperature, and a little shortness of breath. But I continued anyway. The next day, I have this awful itch allover me and rashed skin. I thought it will all go away, but I waited 3 weeks, it won't go. So I took an antihistamine tablet then, bam, it's gone the next day. Do you think it's also a masto?

NB: before this, 2 years ago I drank beer for the first time and get the same result, but later on I drank Smirnoff because I thought it's lighter.

Thanks for sharing in your blog!

Information Sheet for Patients and Caregivers!

The Mastocytosis Society,Inc. Information Sheet for Patients and Caregivers


This is a brief introduction for new patients and doctors who are unfamiliar with the management of mastocytosis. The information presented here, combined with that available in the cited references, provides a starting point from which to approach understanding, treating, and living with this rare disorder.

Mast cell disease, or mastocytosis, is characterized by the proliferation and accumulation of mast cells in a variety of tissues and can affect either sex at any age. Definite diagnosis is made by demonstrating an abnormal accumulation of mast cells in a biopsy, usually of the skin and/or bone marrow. Other causes for symptoms should be ruled out, and blood and urine testing for mast cell products may be suggestive of the diagnosis. When performed properly by experienced personnel with access to current information on recommended protocols the results of these tests will be useful in diagnosing and evaluating mastocytosis.

Mast cells are widely distributed in nearly every organ of the body, mainly close to blood and lymph vessels, nerve endings, and skin and mucous membrane surfaces. They develop from immature cells produced in the bone marrow, which migrate to the tissues where they mature.

Mast cells produce various chemicals which normally serve protective, inflammatory and regulatory functions as they interact with white blood cells and tissues. In mastocytosis these chemicals, or mediators, are abnormally abundant and cause symptoms.

Mast cell products (mediators)

Some mast cell products are stored in granules within the cell, and others are produced in response to stimulation by the immune system or by drugs, chemicals, or physical factors. Below is a table of some factors which can cause mast cells to release their products. Stress, strong emotions and estrogen can increase their effect.

The products present in granules and ready for immediate release on stimulation include histamine, heparin, tryptase, and chymase. These chemicals cause, and to some extent regulate, allergic and inflammatory changes, and are involved in tissue building or repair. In response to immune system activation of the mast cell, arachidonic acid within the cell is converted into prostaglandin D2 and leukotriene C4, which restrict air flow in the lungs, stimulate mucous formation, and attract some kinds of white blood cells.

Mast cells also generate several cytokines, which are proteins that interact with white blood cells and tissue cells to continue the allergic or inflammatory response.

Symptoms

The symptoms of mastocytosis vary from person to person and may occur as "attacks" or as simply fatigue and a feeling of ill health. Over time, symptoms may become more frequent and more severe. The rate of progression differs from person to person, and there may be an improvement in symptoms for long periods of time. The type and severity of symptoms can also vary greatly from person to person or from one episode to the next. Often, seemingly unrelated symptoms comprise an individual's personal pattern of mastocytosis. These may (or may not) include: flushing (temporary skin redness), itching, hives,bruising, and skin sensations such as tingling. Other symptoms experienced by many of the people with mastocytosis are nausea,vomiting, abdominal cramping, occasional or frequent diarrhea, and excess stomach acid or ulcers. The person may experience unexplained fractures, mild to severe pain in bones, joints, or muscles, enlargement of liver or spleen, bladder pain, heart palpitations or rapid heart beat, chest discomfort, shortness of breath, light-headedness, fatigue,weakness, weight loss, respiratory symptoms including asthma. There may be depression, poor memory or irritability; also intolerance to heat or cold or to a change in temperature. Other symptoms include headaches,fainting or near fainting, and recurrent anaphylaxis.

Treatment

Because there is not yet a cure for mastocytosis, treatment is aimed at reducing the frequency and severity of the release of mast cell products and at countering the effects of mast cell products which are inevitably released. Most patients will achieve relief of symptoms only by employing measures in both areas.

Avoidance of the factors which are known to cause a reaction for the individual patient, and cautious evaluation of other factors, such as those listed in the Table below, are important in the management of mastocytosis.

In using drugs to counter the effects of mast cell products,treatment must be tailored to the individual patient. Most commonly, H1 antihistamines such as chlorpheniramine or hydroxyzine are used to decrease the skin symptoms, vasodilation and mucous secreting actions of histamine. Stomach symptoms generally respond well to H2 antihistamines, such as cimetadine or ranitidine, which can also help reduce skin symptoms.

Aspirin or other non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, if tolerated by the patient, provide relief from flushing and lightheadedness by blocking the body's production of prostaglandin D2. These drugs can cause unexpected severe reactions, though, and their use must be instituted cautiously under careful medical supervision.

Cromolyn (disodium cromoglycate) is a mast cell stabilizing drug which is frequently effective in reducing skin and gastrointestinal symptoms as well as mental and other systemic systems.

For severe diarrhea or malabsorption, collection of fluid in the abdominal cavity, and continued anaphylaxis which fails to respond to other measures, systemic corticosteroids may be required.

People with mastocytosis should carry injectable epinephrine, and they should know how to inject themselves if necessary to treat anaphylaxis.

There are other medications which may provide symptomatic relief if the ones mentioned above are ineffective or undesirable for a particular patient. No new medication or remedy should be started without careful consideration and close supervision, in case of an unexpected reaction.

Prognosis

It is not yet possible to predict the course of mastocytosis in any individual person. When involvement is limited to the skin, symptoms may improve or clear entirely, but it is also possible for the disease to progress to the systemic form. In about half the young children affected, symptoms disappear as they reach adulthood.

When the mast cell infiltration is systemic, symptoms may progress slowly over many years or may suddenly increase temporarily or permanently. The patient may even progress to the more serious categories of disease.

For the small percentage of patients who develop an associated hematological disorder, the course varies, and the prognosis depends on the associated hematological disease. ( 2 )

It is very important for the patient and the doctor to maintain good communication and to work cooperatively to achieve the best possible symptom control. Communication with other doctors caring for mastocytosis patients, and with other persons who have the disease, is important in order to maintain a support and information network. The affected person, or the child's parents, should strive to become educated about mastocytosis and to be aware of their individual needs and responses to triggering factors. A recognized medical warning device, such as a MedicAlert bracelet, should be worn, and extra caution is needed when undergoing dental work or surgery.

The Mastocytosis Society provides education and support to people with all forms of mast cell disease and their doctors, encourages research, and hopes to help find a cure for the disease. The Society also maintains a list of consultants who are available to advise professionals caring for a mastocytosis patient. Because of the rare nature of mast cell disease, we encourage doctors and patients to register with the Society in order to facilitate the communication and information exchange which will hasten the achievement of a cure.


Classification (adapted from (1) )

The following is a useful classification of the kinds of mastocytosis.


Cutaneous mastocytosis: Skin involvement only. This may include:

Urticaria pigmentosa: The typical rash of mastocytosis in the skin.

Solitary mastocytoma - a clump of mast cells restricted to a small area of the skin.

Diffuse cutaneous mastocytosis - skin involvement without urticaria pigmentosa or telangiectasia macularis eruptiva perstans (distinctive patches of discolored skin with small blood vessels on a reddened background. If the skin is heavily infiltrated with mast cells, the release of large amounts of mast cell products may cause systemic symptoms.


Systemic mastocytosis with or without skin involvement: Mast cell infiltration of at least one internal organ (like bone marrow or gastrointestinal tract). (2)

Mastocytosis in association with hematological disorder, with or without skin involvement: For example: leukemia, lymphoma, and myelodysplastic or myeloproliferative disorders.

Lymphadenopathic mastocytosis with eosinophilia, with or without skin involvement: Enlarged spleen and lymph nodes, infiltrated with mast cells, along with a blood count high in eosinophils.

Mast cell leukemia: This is rare but is the most serious form of masocytosis. The treatment and course of the disease is dictated by the leukemia.


Table of mast cell degranulators (adapted from (3) )

Allergens and other immunologic stimuli

Exercise

Physical stimuli (heat, cold, sunlight, friction, pressure, vibration)

Bacterial toxins

Venoms (snake and insect, especially bee and wasp stings)

Biologic polypeptides (released by intestinal roundworms, jellyfish,crayfish, and lobster)

Polymers (Compound 48/80, dextran)

Drugs: Aspirin, alcohol, narcotics (codeine, morphine), polymyxin B,amphotericin B, D-tubocurarine, quinine, iodine-containing radiographic dyes, scopolamine, gallamine,decamethonium, reserpine.

References:

1. Dean D. Metcalfe. Classification and Diagnosis of Mastocytosis:Current Status. J Invest Dermatol 96: 2S-4S, 1991.

2. Linda Golkar, Jeffrey D Bernhard. Seminar: Mastocytosis. Lancet 1997; 349:1379-85

3. Jack Longley, Thomas P. Duffy, Steven Kohn. Continuing Medical Education: The mast cell and mast cell disease. J Am Acad Dermatol 1995;32:545-61

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